JACK: "I think it's a bit of both. I've always said that Meat Beat is a vehicle just to do things differently. The line-ups have always changed. The first line-up had like 15 people in it, then down to four, then down to 2, then down to one for this record. Now it's back up to four, with John and Lynn, whose playing drums, and Mike, who's playing keyboards and theriman. That's the core now."