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  1. Type O Negative

    November 7, 1992 by admin

    When bands do interviews to talk about there music it’s always hard to tell whether they’re being completely honest or just putting up a front to sell records and make their label happy. But Type O Negative leader Peter Steele puts up no such pretenses. During the course of a telephone interview, the singer/bassist openly puts down his record company (Roadrunner Records) for pushing his music on the metal market even though it would appeal to a much wider audience. He explains that he is trying to speak with a wide variety of magazines ot make up for this, yet he answers in short, often one sentence responses that reveal little insight. Peter doesn’t seem too concerned with the promotion side of making music, and he doesn’t pretend to.

    But the music on the New York band’s new LP, “Bloody Kisses,” manages to speak for itself with its wide variety of styles incorporated into an eclectic sound. Probably the easest way to describe it is as a combination of The Sisters of Mercy and the Beatles. There’s a dark, gothic tone here, with thrashing guitars and growling vocals, but there’s also some nice harmonies that you’d never expect to here.

    Type O Negative was formed four years ago, after the demise of Steele’s former group, Carnivore. The groups sound has evolved from a noise/hardcore/grunge style into the current gothic sound and Steels ways the change was brought about simply by what he was listening to.

    “I like psychadelic music, I like goth, I like some early metal and I like indie,” he explains. “I was not trying to copy anybody but I certainly to listen to this stuff and I think it’s rubbed off on me.”

    Connecting the many of the songs on “Bloody Kisses” are short, formless noise collages. With many guitar bands starting to incorporated industrial elecments into their music, this doesn’t really seem out of place. But Steele says that Type O Negative are not jumping on the bandwagon, but actually mocking it.

    “That’s to make fun of the so-called ‘art bands’ that think random sound is art,” he explains. “I really don’t think so. It does happen at times that random sound does sound pretty cool, but otherwise I don’t think it takes any real talent or any skill and this is just like poking fun at the whole thing.”

    Steele’s tendancy for freely expressing his beleifs has caused many problems, to the degree that the group had to back out of a European tour in 1991 dues to accusations that they were fascists.

    “I’m not really a big fan of socialism, and I have made this clear and I guess some people think that if you put down socialistm that you’re a fascist, which is not the case,” he explains. “I’m just the type of person that feels everybody should stand on their own two feat and everybody should be independent. Because I don’t ask anybody for anything and I don’t want anybody asking me for anything

    But Steele says that they tend to have problems whereever they go, so it doesn’t look like Type O Negative will be touring anytime soon (though they may do the occaisional show in New York). “As it stand now, we are big fish in a small pond, and that’s the way I like it. This way we can have more of a say in the actualy product”


  2. Nine Inch Nails

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    In late 1989, Nine Inch Nails came out of nowhere and proved to be a driving force in the “industrial dance” scene that was quickly emerging from the underground. Essentially a solo project of 27 year old programmer/musician Trent Reznor, Nine Inch Nails was fleshed out to a full band and toured extensively in support of the debut album, “Pretty Hate Machine,” proving once and for all that electronic music could be adapted to the live setting. Nine Inch Nails toured for two years straight, gaining wider exposure but leaving fans yearning for more material. People began to wonder is Reznor would ever come up with a follow-up to his stunning debut.

    The silence has been ended with “Broken,” an eight-song EP that marks the beginning of a new era for Nine Inch Nails. The group has ended its turbulent relationship with TVT Records after a bitter legal battle and moved on to Interscope. Musically, the disc is very different than its predecessor. Fans of the clean, high-tech sound of “Pretty Hate Machine” may be shocked to hear the noisy, guitar-oriented music on “Broken.” Nine Inch Nails’ music was always aggressive, but the new EP takes it to the extreme. Reznor has chosen not to tour in support of “Broken” and is currently working on a new full-length album, tentatively scheduled for an early summer release.

    Though the sound of “Broken” makes it seem that Reznor is getting away from using heavy electronics in music, that is not the case. “It may seem that way, but in reality it’s probably as much or more so,” he explains. “I just got different equipment for one thing, and what appears to be guitar, bass and drums is really just a computer.”

    Musically, Reznor says that his tastes have changed since doing “Pretty Hate Machine” and that he is not as stimulated by traditional electronic music as he was. Reznor says that he is not turning his back on electronic music, since that is his instrument, but was simply changing the way he went about creating it. For instance, the music on “Broken” was originally written on guitar.

    The recording of”Broken” had to be done in secret, since at the time the deal with Interscope had not yet been finalized. Reznor says that the whole ordeal was an unpleasant experience, and he wanted to make the music reflect that. But because he didn’t want to bog down an entire album with that sound, he chose to make the project an EP. The resulting product is a dark, abrasive collection of songs that is a far cry from the synthetic dance sound of” Pretty Hate Machine.”

    “A lot people may say ‘oh, I don’t like it as good as ‘Pretty Hate Machine’ because it’s not as accessible or it’s not as pretty or it’s not as sad’, or whatever the fuck they might say,” says Reznor. “That was meant to be a flexing muscle, it was meant to be an abrasive, hard-to-listen-to thing, and lyrically ,it changed viewpoints. Because where ‘Pretty Hate Machine”s viewpoint was kind of like ‘things might suck, but I still care about myself and I still want things to be cool trying to fix them’, ‘Broken’ was things suck, and I suck and I don’t fucking care about anything, including myself. And that’s not as positive a statement to make or yell, and a lot of people I don’t think want to hear that statement and that’s a specific statement for a specific mood for people.”

    Although technically an EP, “Broken” contains as much music as some LPs, due to the two bonus tracks that are not in the song listing.

    “Those two tracks, a cover of an Adam Ant song ["Physical"] and “Suck” were a couple of songs that we’d been floating around and playing live,” explains Reznor. “We first played “Physical,” the Adam Ant song, when we did Lollapallooza, and it ended up being kind of a fun song to play and we wanted to put that out as a 12 inch when we were doing Lollapallooza, but we couldn’t, of course, because of our record label.”

    Though these songs didn’t really fit in with “Broken,” Reznor did not see them fitting in the future and just wanted to get them out. The first 200,000 copies of the EP contained the songs on a bonus three- inch cd, while future pressings had them at the end of the disc, not listed on the track listing. “It was a way to distance them from the other music because it wasn’t part of the same mind set,” says Reznor. ‘”Unfortunately, the risk involved is, with radio being as conservative as it is, I knew they would jump on “Physical” or “Suck” because they’re a bit more digestible than the other stuff, so I’ve tried to make them as obscure as possible.”

    Reznor says that the troubles with TVT stemmed from the label misconception that NIN was “a nice pop band.” He says that when he delivered “Pretty Hate Machine,” the label hated it because it wasn’t as radio-friendly as they hoped. Ultimately, Reznor found it unbearable dealing with the label and having to get the approval of people that wanted NIN to be something it wasn’t.

    “I decided that there’s no way I could make another record for these people because I have to deal with things like them putting my music in bad movies and buying advertising time during “David Letterman” for a record that’s two years old,” says Reznor. “I’m the one that had to answer to my fans for that, and it’s not me doing it and I have no control over it. It was a really bad situation and personally we hated each other. But it finally ended and now we’re on Interscope and they’ve been really cool.”

    Reznor feels that the extensive touring that the group did after “Pretty Hate Machine” was what broke the band. At first, not many radio stations (and certainly not MTV) were playing Nine Inch Nails. But after getting exposure touring first with The Jesus and Mary Chain and then with Peter Murphy (both of whom Reznor says were “easy to blow away”), people began to take notice. A successful headlining tour followed and then came to question of Lollapallooza.

    Reznor says that doing the tour was an attempt to earn enough money to fight a successful lawsuit to get off TVT. But while it proved to be a good way for the band to stay alive during a difficult period, fans stated to think that Reznor was just milking it.

    “We got a lot of people bitching at me ‘get more material out, record an album more often.’ I’m like ‘look, when I’m ready to make a record that I feel is worth making I’ll make it’,” explains Reznor. “Secondly, I owe you nothing as a fan except what I think is good material on a good tour and everything’s of quality. And I’m not going to put out a shitty record that I write in a month just so that I can get back on the road. That would inevitably do more harm to us. And, when you’re touring, that takes time and when I’m touring I’m not writing songs and I’m not sitting at home on a computer working on drum samples. I’m touring and that takes a lot of energy. It’s one guy doing everything, and every time I write a song I have to try to reinvent how I’m writing it, the sounds I’m using, the process of writing it, the style of writing. I’m trying to break that up and that takes time. It’s not as simple as getting together with three or four other guys and saying ‘okay, here’s the chord and the melody’, not that there’s anything wrong with that but I chose not to do that.”

    In transferring the songs of “Pretty Hate Machine” to the live setting, Reznor was faced with the challenge of making totally computerized music interesting to see performed. Reznor believes it to be a “cop out” to simply sing along to DATs, as many electronic bands do. But he also feels it’s a cop out to take electronic music and try to translate it to full rock band format. The solution was to use live guitars, drums and keyboards, but also have all the bass and any unreproducable noises on tape, as Reznor does not think anyone will miss watching someone play them.

    “The second you mention tape on stage, everyone yells Milli Vanilli and Janet Jackson,” says Reznor. “My whole point it this – if someone leaves our show and feels ripped off, fuck you, you can have your money back. That was the way to make it sound the best and have the most energy and sound live but also sound electronic at the same time.”

    NIN had its beginning when Reznor was working in a studio and recorded demos during off-hours. He adopted the name Nine Inch Nails because “it’s a lot cooler name than Trent Reznor.” Though he was originally only looking for a 12-inch deal so he could hone his craft, he ended up signing with TVT.

    While its touring incarnation is a full band, on record NIN is still pretty much all Trent Reznor. However, Reznor is starting to have other people play on his music “to add a little life to it” and does not rule out the possibility of collaborating on actual songwriting sometime in the future.

    The fact that NIN have been labeled “industrial” by the media has led to a backlash from the “true” industrial fans who argue that the music bears little resemblance to such industrial pioneers as Throbbing Gristle. But Reznor stresses that it is the media that has given him that label.

    “Mainstream America needs some sort of name, so fine, you can use that. In most of mainstream America, I would assume that Nine Inch Nail’s name would to mind if you said that word,” says Reznor. “The only problem I have is when you get the purist, underground people whose sensibilities are so offended by the fact that a pop band, or a band that actually has lyrics that you can understand or possibly could be played on the radio is labeled “industrial” and they’re like ‘that’s not industrial, god dammit!’. Okay, you’re right. But who’s telling you that? Me? No, so if want to bitch at somebody, bitch at Spin Magazine.”

    Since NIN has emerged out from the underground to become a commercial success, Reznor is also faced with the dreaded scenario of having the people who liked NIN back when nobody had heard of them suddenly accuse him of “selling out.”

    “When those people start to slightly turn on you, not because you’ve put out bad music, not because you’ve sold out, but because a lot of people like you, it’s kind of a disturbing thing to think about,” explains Reznor. “Through the phase where it was like I wish these people didn’t like me because you don’t understand where the fuck I’m coming from. I don’t want to be a big band and I don’t want to sell a shit-load of records and I’d rather be playing 500-seat clubs with my fans there instead of poseur idiots, fuckheads who just show up because you’re supposed to like this. Frat boys, and that kind of shit.

    “But I catch myself realizing what a fucking elitist, stupid, fascist thing to think that is, where, okay, you’re allowed to like it because you’re cool, but you’re not allowed to like it because you’re not cool.

    “Well, fuck that. I understand people make music their own, and suddenly when it’s a big thing, a lot of people seem to turn on that and they look for the other things that are now obscure that they can make their own again. Nothing is going to change that, but when you really think about it, it is kind of a silly way to act. I personally don’t feel that compromised in my music, and if I wanted to, I could have just put out a record that would have sold a lot more copies than ‘Broken’ might do.”

    Reznor is currently in the studio working on a new LP, which is tentatively scheduled for a summer release. He says the music will sound less dense and produced, as he feels too much thought and too many layers of sound went into the creation of “Broken.” Reznor says he purposely made “Broken” less accessible in order to make it more interesting for the listener and this idea will carry over to the new album.

    “It may be pretentious for me to say, but I wanted to make a record that the first time you hear it you don’t like it, but you might want to hear it again, but by the third time it’s pretty cool,” explains Reznor. “By the fifth time, you really like it and possibly by the tenth time you’re not sick of it and now it all makes sense … For me, if I hear a song and love it the first time I hear it, I’m usually sick of it by the fifth time. “Smells Like Teen Spirit” would be a great example of that. That’s a fucking great song, but I could live another five life times without hearing it again.”

    The way Broken ended up sounding also has a lot to do with the type of sounds it uses. On “Pretty Hate Machine”, all the drums were sampled from other people’s records using an E-Max. But this time around, Reznor went out with a portable DAT machine and recorded his own sounds, later dissecting them on the computer to create the instruments heard on “Broken.”

    In addition to working as Nine Inch Nails, Reznor also has a production deal with Sire, though nothing has come out of it yet. “When they get something that works with my schedule and that I’m into doing, I’d be happy to do stuff with them,” he says. “They’re a cool label.”

    But Reznor says that he will not be working with Pigface again, as he was not happy with the project the first time around.” According to Reznor, many shows were promoted as it he was supposed to be appearing, even though it was known well in advance that he wasn’t. “Then every night there’s a story about how I’m sick and I can’t come to the show,” says Reznor.

    “I think it’s the kind of thing that could be fun to be involved in except I haven’t had the time to really do it and there’s just some difference in opinion on a few issue that will prevent me from working with them again. I didn’t think it was that great when it was out and that’s no commentary on the people in the band, because I like everybody involved with that. I just have to be cautious of the way that Nine Inch Nails is handled and I wasn’t able to or I didn’t have time to put enough energy into that for me to feel really good about doing it. I don’t want to have to make excuses for what I do.”


  3. Machines Of Loving Grace

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    When Machine of Loving Grace spent $1000 to put together a demo, they did it so well that they ended up getting stuck with it as their debut album. Much to the bands surprise, it not only attracted the attention of Mammoth, but the label decided to release it. Vocalist Scott Benzel says that it “stung a little bit” getting what was only ever intended as a demo being presented to the public as a debut album. But now the group has followed it up with “Concentration,” their first proper release as a label entity and an album they are much more happy with.

    Machines of Loving Grace first got together about 4 years ago. Originally a trio of vocalist Scott Benzel, keyboardist Mike Fisher and guitar/bassist Stuart Kupars, drummer Brad Kemp came on board for live shows after the self-titled debut came out and has stayed with the group. Because the band members come from different music backgrounds, the group has always strived to bring together electronics and traditional rock instrumentation.

    Benzel says that early on the group did a lot of experimenting and as a result many of the songs tended to lean toward one side, either being very electronic or very rock-oriented. Now the Machines of Loving Grace feel they have found a synthesis of the two.

    Unlike many other bands that fuse the two styles, Machines of Loving Grace have a very uncluttered sound. Traditional bass sounds figure prominently, which give it a very natural feel. The electronic percussion noises, samples and vocal effects blend in perfectly with the other instruments rather than overpower them.

    The bands first LP was self-produced on a home 8 track studio. When Mammoth expressed interest, the group wanted to re-record it, but the label chose to put it out as-is.

    “We were sort of formulating the idea for the band while we wrote it, and that’s one of the reasons I feel the first album came out sounding a little skewed,” says Benzel. “It’s pretty eclectic, sometimes not in a good way.”

    This time around, the Machines of Loving Grace still did all the pre-production at home but then went into a local 48 track studio and then a studio in LA to finish it off. However, the group used a slightly different approach than most bands do.

    “It was an interesting process,” explains Benzel. “We would go in and lay down some tracks, and then we’d re-sample some of that, take it back home and manipulate it from there and lay it back in later.”

    This process causes “a real nightmare” when the group tries to prepare their material for live shows. Benzel says that the group is finally at the stage where they feel comfortable with the translation, through they still find if to be a time consuming and arduous task going through and re-working the music. For one-off and local shows, the group has added additional musicians, but bringing too many people on the road just causes more problems. Despite the difficulties, Machines of Loving Grace have grown to like playing out.

    “We started off as a studio project exclusively, and the first shows that we played were sort of grudging, we were not interested in playing live,” says Benzel. “But after we toured last year, we really learned that you can learn a lot about the music and about the way the people are interacting with it. As a result, we’re learned a lot about what worked within our music and what didn’t work.”

    When Mammoth released the first album, a lot of people compared Machines of Loving Grace to Nine Inch Nails. Some of the more narrow-minded critics even went so far as to say that when a band copied NIN it showed that music had reached an all-time low. But the group was not really bothered by the comparisons.

    “In a way, it’s sort of the obvious comparison, especially for those who aren’t really familiar with the genre,” explains Benzel .”That was the thing the people initially leapt towards.”

    The comparison was fueled even more when Trent Reznor worked on a Machines of Loving Grace remix. But Benzel is quick to point out that most of that first album was recorded before NIN’s “Pretty Hate Machine” came out and released well before NIN became huge. But by the time Mammoth put it out, everyone was already familiar with the NIN sound and jumped in with the comparisons. The release of “Concentration” should put the comparisons to rest once and for all, as it shows the group managed to craft its own unique style.


  4. Front 242

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    Although they weren’t the first band to create dark, robotic sounding electronic music, Front 242 are probably the most influential group on today’s scene. Beginning in the mid to late 80′s, an onslaught of new bands have emerged that play aggressive electronic music with often distorted vocals and pounding dance beats. But Front 242 were ahead of their time, making this style of music way back in 1982.

    Front 242 was started up in 1981 by keyboardist/ programmer/ producer Daniel B, who rarely appears publicly with the band despite being the founder. A year later keyboardist Patrick Codenys and vocalist Jean-Luc De Meyer came on board, with vocalist/live performer Richard JK (also known as Richard 23) joining a year after that. Over the years Front 242 have consistently put out high quality material that has grown even more aggressive, particularly with their US major label debut, “Tyranny (For You)”(1991). This year, the group put out two new albums. The first, “06:21:03:11 UP EVIL” is the logical follow-up to “Tyranny,” while the new “05:22:09:12 OFF” is much more experimental and features vocals by 99 Kowalski and the Eran Westwood (of NYC band Spill).The following interview was conducted with Codenys during the Lollapalooza tour.

    What was it like going out as the only electronic band on this year’s Lollapalooza tour?

    We had a lot of struggles at the beginning because we had to fine-tune with the rest of the sets, because we definitely have a different type of music and we had a different way of presenting it. So it was quite difficult. I think we’ve reached a point where we can present something very complex. It’s still very, very different. A lot of people don’t get it, or are quite cur ious or surprised.

    In terms of the selection of what songs you performed, did try to tail or you set at all to the mass audiences?

    I don’t think there’s any way to make the songs where people would be comfortable when you’re Front 242. When you address your music to 20,000 people; I think our fans are people who have already made the effort to listen to that kind of music and that’s nice. I think it’s more like we’ve prepared a sample and are happy to have the big exposure and we just hope that people will open up their mind, that they are curious, that they will just open their ears to something different than American rock.

    Is it difficult adapting Front 242 to the live setting?

    This year it’s very close to that we have in the studio; it’s almost like a portable studio on the road because Daniel is at the mixing desk with a bunch of machines and working with a portable computer, a Powerbook, to run the sequences. And the guys on stage are adding sounds and different things on the music. It’s very flexible this year. We can really work on the material; we can cut and switch sounds, cancel sequences that are not going through because they’re too complicated, so it’s very flexible.

    How do the members of Front 242 work together to create the music?

    This year it has been more directed by two persons. Generally the other people have helped on the music, especially Richard because he’s got a library of samples. This is just because I think the formula for the 90′s is more oriented on one or two person projects. When you see Nine Inch Nails, it’s one person. Ministry in two people. But it didn’t bring any frustration, everybody’s pretty self-sufficient.

    It’s unusal for an electronic band to have two vocalists. What was the reason for bringing in Richard?

    We have two vocalists, but we have one lead singer. Richard is more the second singer but the entertainer. The first singer concentrates on the lyrics, and the role of Richard is more like a kind of random kind of singing that’s just supposed to go with the feeling and the audience. He’s really free. He’s got some lines he’s supposed to say, but in generally his role is to make it more alive by repeating some li nes and provoking the audience. That’s really his role.

    Andy Wallace, who mixed “06:21:03:11 Up Evil” is primarily known for his work with guitar bands. Why did Front 242 choose to work with hi m?

    Especially on this campaign, which is two albums, we really wanted to implode or explode the concept of the band. We were tired of the same formula all the time, we really wanted to reach other directions. So the only way to do that is to challenge yourself. Andy Wallace was probably the biggest risk we could take; he’s really not into electronic music. The only reason we chose him was because he’s also somebody who’s a sort of ‘wise man’ in terms of audio mixing. He must be in his late 40′s and he knows about music and when you have good ears like he does, dealing with 40 tracks of traditional rock or 40 tracks or electronic music, he’s got a maturity to do that. We just have to tell him ‘this is the atm osphere we want to create, this is the idea behind the song.’ He could do it very well.

    How w ould you compare “05:22:09:12 OFF” with “06:21:03:11 UP EVIL”?

    “It’s the opposite of the first one. The two albums are based on a duality, like good and evil. The first one is very dark, a lot of distortion and guitars. The second album is pure electronic, we mixed it ourselves. It’s dance, ambiance, a female vocalist on it; it goes a total opposite direction. For us, we felt that electronic music was going toward an end. It is really like a guitar period now and the only way for us to find solutions is to exploit the band and try to go all directions. It’s dangerous because you don’t have a very obvious commercial album, but your only chance is to go for extremes because it might open up more ways of doing music. So the second album is more on the synthesizer/electronic field.

    What was it like to emerge as one of the first bands doing aggressive electronic music band in the 80′s?

    It was like you were a freak at the time, really, especially with the press. We still have a lot of problems with the press because we’re not using guitars and we don’t go for a traditional rock base. At the time it was very difficult, you know how music is. If you take the cinema industry, it’s way more open minded. Mu sic is a very traditional branch.

    How did you cope with the reactions?

    It’s just being stubborn; it’s the only way. You make yourself very strong. You build shields, you have to be self-sufficient, you produce yourself, because nobody wants to do it. You keep on working on the project with the ideas you have at the beginning. One of our powers I think was to be able to translate out music live to the audience in a very physical way. Most electronic bands are studio bands who are very cold on stage and not very exciting. We have the power to express ourselves directly to our audience. It’s very important for us.

    Technology in music has evolved a great deal since Front 242 started, but do you fin d yourselves limited at all by the current equipment available?

    No, because we’re not computer freaks or slaves to our technology. Technology has always been a tool for us. It’s true that we work a lot with ideas first so we talk a lot and we work with feeling and ideas and emotions. It’s true that in the early 80′s there were not so many ways to express what you had in mind because the technology wasn’t that flexible as it is now. But at the same time, the effort you had to put in what you were doing wa s more break through at the end. So it was always a tool for us.

    Are you comfortable with the term “industrial” in describing the music of Front 242? If not, what label would you prefer?

    The best thing to say is that Front 242 is doing Front 242, but I know people won’t go for that. To me, I would say I like the term ‘alternative’ and I like the term ‘industrial’ also only because ‘industrial’ is a movement that started in the early 70′s in Germany and moved to England and Belgium and now is reaching the States. And I think that it’s ok because it’s a very big movement and it’s always moving. It’s not something that’s a fashion. There’s been ‘industrial’ bands since almost ever. So that’s ok to me.

    Are any members of Front 242 involved in any side projects?

    That’s going to be the near-future for Front 242. I think we will keep the band but we’re probably all going to work on side projects.

    Did you have any goals in mind in going out on the Lollapalooza tour?

    For us, it’s giving a sample of that type of music and spread it because we have a big exposure. We don’t pretend we’re going to convince people with what we’re doing, we’re just proposing a type of music. It’s day time, and generally we like to have a very cinematograph show with a lot of elements on stage and lights. But we cannot bring that, so it’s Front without the image. It’s almost like switching a TV on but not havi ng the screen.

    Will you be returning to do shows on your own?

    We’ll come back in November or December for a headline tour. I’m aware that a lot of fans, and a lot of people have said so, they wouldn’t come for Lollapalooza.


  5. David J

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    Back in the early 80′s, David J was part of Bauhaus, one of the most influential bands of that era. Along with such other groups as the Cure and Sisters Of Mercy, Bauhaus helped provoke a generation of teenagers to wear black and take pride in being depressed. But David, who’s full name is David John Haskins, has not looked back since the break up of that band in 1983. While still working with former Bauhaus band mates Daniel Ash and Kevin Haskins (his brother) as Love and Rockets, David has also embarked on a solo career. His most recent effort, “Urban Urbane”, manages to bring together a wide variety of styles and proves to be his strongest solo effort to date.

    The sound of the LP ranges from jazzy numbers like “Some Big City” to dark, Love and Rockets like material to more acoustic sounding tracks. David says that he didn’t have anything specific sound in mind when he went in to make the album. But he does feel that the length of time he took to make it (three and a half years) may account for some of the diversity.

    On “Candy on the Cross,” David is reunited with former Bauhaus vocalist Peter Murphy, whom he has not worked with since the break up. “The track came up and I could hear Peter’s voice on it, so I phoned him up to see what he was doing,” explains David. “It was quite odd really because he was in New York at the time and before I could get around to asking him he asked me to come down to maybe do some recording with him in New York. And then I say “It’s funny you say that Pete because the reason I’m phoning is to ask you to do the same, I’ve got this song. But that didn’t happen because I didn’t make it out to America and had to wait for him to come back to England and then we finally got together a studio in London.”

    David says he originally got into music as a teenager because he “wanted to play the bass like the reggae guys.” Although he was content to stay “four steps back from the front” as bassist in Bauhaus, David says he enjoys singing and being more of the center of attention.”I wanted to do it when I was about seven and eight,” he says. “I remember trying to sing like Cliff Richard when I was that age, imagining myself up on the Top of the Pops stage and daydreaming.”

    Having recently completed a solo tour, David’s next move is more work with Love and Rockets. The group has completed it’s new lp after a planned one year break that turned into four years. According to David, the album is something of a departure from their previous work. “It’s really representative of all the music we’ve been listening to individually during that time, particularly the dance/rave scene that’s been very big in England since ’89,” he explains. “Its certainly taken that on board, and it’s quite ambient as well in places.”

    Because Love and Rockets is essentially Bauhaus without Peter Murphy, there have been reports that the group came out of a failed attempt at a Bauhaus reunion. David says that this is “absolutely false” and that there is “completely different chemistry” in the groups. The group began its evolution when Kevin Haskins joined Ash’s Tones On Tail. David has been working with Jazz Butcher and rejoined his former bandmates after the demise of Tones On Tail. Although he admits that “commercially it was insane” for Bauhaus to split, David says that the group has simply run its course and the break-up was completely amicable.


  6. Cop Shoot Cop

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    Being picked up by a major label may mean more money, support, and exposure, but in some cases it can also lead to less fun. In Cop Shoot Cop’s case, their first tour after being signed has proved to be disappointing in terms of unexpected incidents that will turn into good stories to tell people later. Sure, nothing can top the time they were accused of being terrorists in LA, but sitting in their dressing room prior to their show at the Rat in March, Cop Shoot Cop seem truly disappointed about how uneventful their tour has been so far.

    “It’s kind of boring this time, no major catastrophes,” proclaims bassist/vocalist Tod A. “And it’s not quite natural; it’s hard to get used to the hotels and all that shit.

    This time, the group was not travelling in the camouflage van tended to attract attention and problems, so they were forced to look for trouble on their own.

    “We tried,” says drummer Phil Puleo. “We tried to get the van stuck in mud, but people helped us out; We tried to burn down a hotel but the fire alarms worked.

    Cop Shoot Cop had their beginnings in 1988 and cite “boredom and hatred of everything else that was going on” as their prime motivation for getting started. After a few changes from their original incarnation, the line-up settled with Tod A. on high-end bass/vocals, Natz on low-end bass/vocals, Puleo on drums and Cripple Jim on samplers.

    The group has an odd instrumentation, but it is not really reflected in their music because the sampler fills in where a guitar would be otherwise. Occasionally, the group will use guitars; one song on each of the last few albums used the instrument and three songs in the live set do. But in general, Cop Shoot Cop use the sampler in it’s place, as it does not lock them into a particular sound. Currently, all samples are played on keyboard, though the band hopes to get into drum triggers in the future.

    In the past, Cop Shoot Cop have been on of those band that gets greater acceptance oversees than in their own country. “An American band in Europe is more of a novelty,” says Tod. “They’re more supportive of weird shit in general. Here the definition of success is making lots of money, there success is maybe making something that’s different and new”

    But Cop Shoot Cop are poised to achieve the fame the deserve in their home country. After several years on the indie circuit, the group was snatched up by Interscope (“they came after us with Pitchforks” jokes Tod). Cop Shoot Cop released their debut album on that label, Don’t Ask Questions, earlier this year. The group says that they have managed to avoid record company interference and have full reign over what their music sounds like and how their covers look.

    With the major labels suddenly setting their sights on the “alternative” market and picking up underground acts, it would seem that Cop Shoot Cops are part of this cashing in of the industry. While they don’t refute that fact that this may have been a factor in their getting signed, they don’t see it as a sell-out. “It’s now part of the mainstream music industry; it’s no longer alternative,” says Tod. “But I think us, or the Unsane, or anybody should have as much chance to irritate people as Michael Jackson or Billy Joel.”

    Jim agrees, adding that “what’s being called Alternative music is just rehashing of stuff we heard 20 years ago. It’s like not really alternative, it’s just another generic term”

    Still, the group does see the business side of things as an nuisance. While they say that being on a larger label has allowed them “to hire slaves” to take some of the burden off, the things that come along with making music are still an annoyance. “I never ceases to amaze me how much bull shit you have to go through just to record a record and play a show,” explains Tod. “It’s like 90% of your time is just spent doing other things that have nothing to do with music.”

    But becoming more established has allowed the band to acquire samplers that don’t crash on stage and basses that don’t always go out of tune. Although they are not quite used to touring in comfort, they say that life back in New York is not different no that they are on Interscope.

    When asked about that incident in LA, the band blurted out “LA .. camouflage van .. bomb suspects .. Japanese restaurant .. on the ground …. handcuffs … 1 1/2 delay .. $8000 … business card from a police sergent.” Briefly, a show they were meant to play at UCLA during the time of the riots was cancelled, and when they went out to get some food, the police mistook them for terrorists. They van was searched and the worst that was found was a few fire works. Cop Shoot Cop were then lectured to by a police sergent about how the whole incident cost the city $8000.

    Stories of the road don’t get much better than that, and hopefully life on a major label won’t always prevent Cop Shoot Cop from getting themselves into such interesting situations.